Losing my religion...and gaining perspective.

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Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for sharing that.
Well said. I hope many more learn what you have.
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Thank you for your honesty and courage of self-reflection. I too am Catholic. The common word for many is "Lapsed Catholic." 30 years is a long lapse. And I left over reasons that were intolerable even at 13. I stayed away for a hundred reasons. Some, as simple as if I didn't practice, I didn't have to face my transgressions - and I had a life time of them.. Some because of the horrible teachings I was exposed to. Or in part that they excommunicated my mother from South America who moved here and because the man she married who traveled to America to find her, left her two days after she was married. He was Amercan. Divorce was illegal in her country. So she divorced here, only to be told she was not allowed to be a Catholic. The pain I felt at 5, 8, and on of her DROPPING me off at church and being shut out. Her shame. She taught me to pray. I had plenty of reasons to hate the church. A priest told me because I didn't go to confession, I was lucky I wasn't paralyzed and in a wheel chair. I was 13. I had missed 4 weeks. We used to MAKE UP sins. How many can a child accrue in a week? And back then you had to go weekly.

I married into a devout Catholic family - not my husband - he too left. I couldn't baptize my children. I wasn't going to have them poisoned by the Catholic teachings and feel guilt.
So I decided I had to shop around for a family faith. I still wanted one. I knew that my children would grow healthier for it.

But before I could, I had to go back to the Catholic Church and make peace or I'd never let go and move on. There would be hooks of unresolved issues.

I did go back - to leave. I let the priest know everything - all my negative views of the church and how all the figures were mythology. This old priest stayed standing :)) And we met for a while. He invited me to come weekly just to talk. Sometimes twice weekly. And not once did he try to change my views. He loved me unconditionally.

A funny thing happened during this long process. I fell in love with my faith of origin the way I loved it as a 5 year old - purely, with joy, passion, hope. I studied the Bible. It all made sense.

Do I think that Pope John Paul acted swiftly enough with the priest situation, which was right after I rejoined the church? No. And in so many other ways, I have held him to be one of the greatest spiritual leaders of our time. Did I agree with everything he said? No. Do I like our current Pope? I hate to say it, but I turn the volume on him off. That's horrible to admit. I heard enough sound bite dogma and "make wrong" of other faiths to undo what John Paul had done that I just tune him out now. Is my faith perfect? No. Am I here to convince anyone to rejoin? No. But for me, as one priest said when I said I had run from the Catholic Church for 30 years, "you can run, but you can't hide." :) It was a moment of validation and understanding and it was before I was ready to come back. But it created an opening to listen. And listen I did.
Your reflection on your journey and your conversation with your dad was wonderful. I respect your candor about your journey and what you learned about yourself in sharing with your dad.
( I finally baptized my heathens :) -that label is a joke - at ages 6 and 9 :))) My daughter, raised in Catholic schools refuses to set foot in church. Her journey. I believe faith in a higher power is necessary (not as in "right") to inner peace.

I came back to my faith - not just because of the priest I spoke with for a while who became my mentor and my friend and I grieve his passing often.
It was also my husband's family. He had Catholicism up to his eyes so he wasn't interested.

My mother-in-law, lived her faith. She didn't evangelize. She didn't beg me to baptize the kids. She asked me to find a faith for them and that was that. But it was in how she lived that planted seeds along the way - by being a woman of God and a woman of internal peace.. And her sisters - two "Arsenic and Old Lace" hysterical, "with it", old ladies did the same. One said one night at a party, "why worry if you're going to pray and why pray if you're going to worry." And I never forgot that. People come into your life to plant seeds that eventually take root. Who knows what they may be for you. But as I look back I can see those seeds in so many subtle ways. God is always calling you. Always. Whoever God is for you, by whatever name or faith or feeling.

The irony in "making peace" with the Catholic faith was that I had to make peace with God. I realized it was probably more on my unconcious agenda than making peace with the church. I'd been in a 12 step program (for families of alcoholics) and it was unfulfilling to practice the step of sharing my mistakes/sins/whatever with a sponsor/God. But in "making peace with God" before I chose another faith, I made a Catholic confession of 30 years of living to the priest. And I made a communion after 30 years. In many ways, the profundity of it made it a "first communion." I changed in every way possible. My husband said I had rearranged my cells as a human being. I began to live a life of goodness (a very simplistic, ineffective word - but I can't think of another. I don't mean I was good, I mean goodness as in being enveloped by it.).

In recent times, when belief dried up because of crises or just too busy for church, it was a special young priest who suggested I attend teen masses: LifeTeen. They sing and hand sign (which I'm too uncoordinated to follow), but I can do simple hand motions of praise. Well singing is said to be praying twice. And singing (pop Christian songs instead of the yawners) with hands raised in praise is kinetic so it reaches into my cells. And I find joy during and all week after. My daughters find the service (designed for teens of which theyboth are) creepy :)) and a cult :)) But I come back joyous. And my 17 year old who is rejecting God, her faith, won't walk into a church - said "Mom, I'm glad you have your faith." And in my heart I know - my faith life is one seed in her life I am thankful fell from me.
I share it as another Catholic journey. ANd because I resonated with ALL your feelings of disgust and I admired your reflection about sharing. So I do NOT intend to share it to evangelize. I believe it is the seeds. Not the preaching. The seeds are God calling us. So I don't purport to have planted a seed. It was not my agenda. I actually thank you (even if I wasn't invited to do so) to share my journey. If we can't acknowledge the faults of a religion, a political party, a president, and are forced to buy any philosophy without thought or accountability, then we are doomed.
That sound you hear is sound of the nail being hit on the head, TM.
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Funny. Just exactly where I am. It's not just the Catholic church, of course. I was in 'Inter-denominational' churches my whole life. I realize now that you don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Thanks for saying what I'm thinking, TM!

RM

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I loved this. I think there is a point in everyone's life that they have to evaluate the faith that they were brought up in, and then decide if its relevant to them. Decide if it's a dogma that they can center their lives around.

You present a perspective that I've never really had about Catholicism. I grew up and still am active in a Protestant church. From the outside, Catholicism almost seems like a completely different religion from my own. I never really tried to understand why people persist in the Catholic faith. You gave me a glimpse, and I'm really grateful for it. Thanks. :)

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This is SO good! I'm not Catholic, but I go to Mass every Sunday, and spend the rest of my time questioning my faith. There are things I don't agree with, and there will always be those things, but there is good in the church as well, and I'm happy it's the place I choose to worship. This is such a lovely piece of writing!
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But, eventually, going to church became more of an obligation. I dreaded going, and not in the “this is my only day to sleep in and I don’t feel like getting dressed up” kind of way. I dreaded going because I knew that I would feel exactly the same as I did before I went. I knew that, when I was in church, I would just go through the motions and not really have any clue as to why I was doing and saying the things I was doing and saying. When I walked out of that church, I felt empty. I felt spiritually malnourished. I had questions (LOTS of them) and nobody had answers. Well, they had answers, but none of them were good enough for me. So I knew that it was time for me to leave.

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That was me two weeks ago, but with Christianity.

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